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29/07/2020 at 4:04 am #13024Death_KittyModerator
So, this is not everything, but this is what me and my group consider to be the most pressing balance issues, in need of adjusting next patch.
- The MG-42 kubel needs to be removed from Panzer Jager.
- Give the kubel to luft, because PJ does not need an MG-42 kubel. In addition, if the Dishka Jeep, and the 50 cal jeep are tier 1 units, the kubel should be tier 1 as well.
- Reduce US riflemen AT rifle nade damage. Buff the M-1919.
- Right now, the AT nades can instantly destroy a luchs, and anything lighter. A reduction in damage will at least allow the luchs to survive a 20 muni upgrade. As compensation, the M1919 should get a buff. it is a really ineffective LMG.
- Give Soviet AT squads the ability to throw 2 AT nades, and give conscripts AT grenades with the PTRS upgrade. Buff PTRS damage
- PTRS should be able to deal with armored cars and kubelwagons. Right now it can’t. In addition, soviets need some accessible AT. Think of it as similar to German panzerfausts.
- Reduce Ranger reinforce cost, reinforce time, and give them better stats. Same with soviet shock assault infantry.
- Right now these guys are really weak. They need some love.
- Reduce reinforcement time and possibly cost for fallshirmjager. Remove shared air strike cooldown. Decrease airstrike price.
- This is to give luft some offmap presence and to lower turnaround time. Again, the cost reduction will probably be unnecessary
- Since it was brought up today, a cost decrease on tulip rockets would also be great, along with a tiny damage boost, as long as the latter idea is easy to implement.
The biggest issue this patch has been the MG-42 kubel. For a tier 0 unit, it is unreasonably oppressive. Soviet anti tank early on has been another problem, since the 76mm guns are incredibly weak against german tank rushes, and the inability for those cannons to penetrate a Pz 4 is a bit disappointing. The lack of any buffer to stop german armor from driving right up to your infantry is a big issue. Volks has done fairly well for itself, without accumulating to much rage, although the lack of early AT, as well as the prevalence of strong splash damage (bogward, leig, panther/sturmtiger nades, the sturmtiger, volkswerfer, phos nades) have cause some moments, but it is not a bit concern.
- This topic was modified 4 years, 4 months ago by Death_Kitty.
- This topic was modified 4 years, 4 months ago by Death_Kitty.
- The MG-42 kubel needs to be removed from Panzer Jager.
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29/07/2020 at 8:06 am #13025novoruski_kefir2Participant
Great post Kitty, in addition i think double AT granade throw for Soviet AT should be free (as basic part of theirs equipment) to compensate lack of HEAT weapon like bazooka, panzershreck or piat which cost nothing to use or just granade assault (not for free).
Reasonable would be giving conscripts RPG-40, double RPG-43 throw for basic AT teams and…maybe RPG-6 double granade throw for CP locked AT squads like arty have.At the end ZIS-3 could be moved to same tier as 6 pdr AT gun, except for soviet arty, as arty it suppose to stay where it is right now that’s why RPG-6 for AT squads could little fill that niche, I don’t see any reason why it’s available later
- This reply was modified 4 years, 4 months ago by novoruski_kefir2.
- This reply was modified 4 years, 4 months ago by novoruski_kefir2.
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29/07/2020 at 8:57 am #13028gustavritterParticipant
You got some good points here, but I dont agree with all of them.
Yeah, Kübel with mg 42 should be removed from PJ but dont move it to t1. There is no point at all getting a Kübel then, in this tier western allies have at guns that onehit the little thing. It would basically be a waste of ressources and tbh the allies have at since T0 in every faction and doc.
AT rifle nade 100% agreed, dealing higher dmg than Panzershreck on pen like wtf.
Yeah give soviet AT squads something capable of fighting german armor. But nothing that is capable of onetapping like double zooks or piats, soviets got enough onehitting stuff later on, so idk about 2 at grenades.
The rest i agree on pretty much!
About bringing allied AT guns in line: I think Zis 3 can be moved to T2, but not T1 like the other allied ones, tbh it would make more sense if they get moved to t2 as well, since they scale well into T3 wich shouldnt work as well as it does for a T1 AT unit.
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29/07/2020 at 12:16 pm #13034Death_KittyModerator
2 AT grenades would be for the PTRS squads only, as the nades do require micro to throw, and it is a specialist squad.
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30/07/2020 at 4:14 pm #13038novoruski_kefir2Participant
Germans have a lot of onetapping stuf too, for example Stupa, KT, JT, SturmTiger, much more Aces then Allies have and they still have best AT weapon for AT squads and best AT gun. Ability to maybe onetap pz4, stugs jagdpanzers with cooldown dosent seems too strong imo.
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